Well, we already knew Tommy has always maintained that these two were lying and he was innocent, despite him accepting that plea bargain. So I am very pleased to read Tommy's going to fight them in court now. We certainly have had enough praying for God to bring His will about and that truth and justice will prevail. I will continue to pray that His will be done, and that He preserve Tommy's health and speak to the hearts of all involved. God knows all, and what's best and will answer accordingly.Nikolas wrote: 1. Fact: Tommy Shelton rejected another plea deal from his attorney.
2. Fact: Tommy Shelton has chosen to go to Court.
3. Fact: When what Alex has told in Court is proven to be lies, Tommy will have no choice but to sue for his court expenses.
4. Fact: There has been some talk that Tommy Shelton's attorney advised him to sue.
This came from friends.
I read this. Then I read some of the reaction on Pickle's forum. It seems to me some they are so busy reacting they haven't stopped to think. Alex maintains it doesn't bother him that he has to go to court now, but I tend to disbelieve him. The case is weak. For one he has a family according to the court document who it seems will testify that there was no opportunity, and that he lies. Second, he has no witnesses while Tommy does. Third, his testimony keeps changing so it isn't credible , and that's all the evidence there is according to the prosecutor.
Another of the things which has changed about his testimony which I noticed, but which wasn't brought up in the court document was the difference in age from his initial police report. News Release: 08/080/2600/BW/(3) from the Fairfax County Police Department:
"In November of 2008, a 22-year-old man contacted police to report that he had been molested by Shelton when he was 8 to 9 years old."
Of course Pickle got a statement from him way before this and always maintained he was 8 years old also, so I don't know how that could be a mistake. But strangely when Alex testified in court the story is he was 11 years old. That appears to be a big difference to me, and I have seen no explanation for it.
Of course Pickle had a statement from Dennis Turley also which was also different then his police statements, and court reports of oral sex. In Dennis' first statement which was either taken by Pickle, or given to Pickle by Glenn Dryden, Dennis says that Tommy only "tempted[sic] to kiss him and preform oral sex on him" etc.. Yet his later statement says it was more than attempts it actually occurred several times. I do remember though that at the first hearing before the grand Jury the Prosecutor had to reduce the charges as Dennis' subsequent testimony didn't support them.
So the original 5 counts are back against Tommy and it appears she will have to reduce them again....
This should be interesting as it progresses.
Another thing I want to comment about here are Gregory Matthew's posts on adventtalk. He posted:
This after he gave an explanation in an earlier post in reply to Alex's, claiming:"Alex: You should not be worried about any litigation against you, as I understand the way the courts work in the U.S."
I can not help myself, I just have to reply to that post:
Yes, I have stated that if TS goes to trial, it will not be a slam-dunk. TS might be found guilty and he might be found not guilty.
So, if he is found not guilty, can he sue those who have accused him? Yes, one can file a suit for just about any reason at all. However, the mere filing of a lawsuit does not mean that it will ever go to trial and to judgement. [NOTE: One of the first motions in a trial is often to dismiss the lawsuit. Sometimes the litigation is dismissed without going to trail.] If it goes to trial, it does not mean that a favorable verdict will be obtained.
In my opinion: If TS is found Not Guilty, he will have almost zero chance of collecting anything from those who have accused him on the basis of anything which involves that trial--the charges and/or sworn testimony are included in my statement. 1) The thought that a jury would award TS damages against the plaintifs reveals, in my mind a fundamental misunderstanding of what juries are likely to do in such cases. 2) The plaintifs are represented by competent council. Those attornies would not allow anything to happen. connected to the trail, that would make their clients subject to such damages.
Is there any way that TS might collect damages from someone? Yes, I think that there is a way. Perhaps TS could collect from someone on the basis of posts made in this forum!
However, there are two issues associated with that: 1) As I read TS, I do not beleive that he would want to be involved in such litigation. 2) TS could only collect if the person had the means to pay the judgement.
I do not believe Gregory Matthews knows Tommy Shelton, although I may be mistaken, but the point here is that Gregory Matthews appears to be speaking from a bias, and according to his view that Alex and Dennis are telling the truth and that Tommy is guilty. Although he claims he may or he may not be found guilty , and he may, or he may not be found innocent by a court of law........... Thus GM's opinion and reassuring to Alex is one sided. He fails to take into account what Alex was replying to which was Nikolas' post above:
" When what Alex has told in Court is proven to be lies, Tommy will have no choice but to sue for his court expenses." "...Tommy Shelton's attorney advised him to sue"
Tommy, may I remind all, has lost his home, his retirement and much more in all of this.
Courts and Juries do not look kindly on perjury, nor does the police. If Alex (or Dennis) is indeed proven to be lying in court, he is gonna be in big trouble, and if GM was really trying to impartially comment, and explain things, he should have at least pointed that out to him imo.
This is also from the Fairfax County Police Department In Virginia:
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police...
I'm sure some will freak out, like Alex already did, saying I am trying to intimidate him. That's ok, I'm not. I am just saying one should consider all. The courts will decide fairly, God willing.Be advised that it is a crime to make a false police report. Anyone found to have submitted a false police report will be prosecuted under the authority of Virginia State Code, Section 18.2-461, which shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor. Maximum possible penalty is one year in jail and/or $2,500 fine.