Tommy Shelton

[uncovering truth]

First, the case was NOT against the country club, your information is dead wrong. Second, it was not because I was "gay." Third, Yes, indeed I did win that case, it never went to court, but a settlement was negotiated and given.

It would seem that if you are going to go around demanding evidence be produced, then you do the same. There are at least three people who have verified your threatened and actual law suits. They have also verified the basis of your claims/arguments in those situations. Do date, the employment situation and the letter request from the church have all been verified by a number of individuals with knowledge of the situation. So, if you want to refute it, your word is only as good as your produced evidence. Post the settlement papers and vindicate yourself.

[Cynthia]

First, the case was NOT against the country club, your information is dead wrong. Second, it was not because I was "gay." Third, Yes, indeed I did win that case, it never went to court, but a settlement was negotiated and given.

It would seem that if you are going to go around demanding evidence be produced, then you do the same. There are at least three people who have verified your threatened and actual law suits. They have also verified the basis of your claims/arguments in those situations. Do date, the employment situation and the letter request from the church have all been verified by a number of individuals with knowledge of the situation. So, if you want to refute it, your word is only as good as your produced evidence. Post the settlement papers and vindicate yourself.

I am not posting anything demanded by a spinless coward, who can't use his/her real name. Identify yourself then we will talk.

You will either post the proof you allege or cease making such claims here and/or withdraw them or apologize for your insults in lieu of answers. We don't play those games here. Those things will not be tolerated from you in this subject henceforth, or from any other. That's the way this forum works, Alex. If you can't deal with that, you don't post here anymore as that is a privilege not a right. IOW, you can just can go back to the AT playground and post there instead of here. Final warning.

Cynthia
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[uncovering truth]

I am not posting anything demanded by a spinless coward, who can't use his/her real name. Identify yourself then we will talk.

That is merely a cop out to avoid providing the information. If you really had the information and you really could refute the claims, you would post it. It is immaterial if you know my name, it's immaterial if I know your name. You are making claims that are unfounded. You have the chance to clear them up so that all the readers who meet your arbitrary "real name" requirement can see if you are lying or telling the truth. If you really care about truth being presented post the settlement papers. I think it safe to say that, even if I did post under a "real name" you would find some other excuse to avoid posting what you don't have.

[Cynthia]

3. You just posted this on the other forum:

I find it funny that they are concentrated on my past life and attacking me. The truth of the matter is yes, I may have had issues, but I have NEVER molested a child like the man that they defend. He is not only a homosexual, but is a child molestor.

YOU NEED TO THINK, and stop opening yourself up for criticism and rebuttals. I never would have mentioned this except for your post above. What is wrong with you? Your parents and family have already evidenced that they will not stand by you in support of your claims - they will in fact refute them and provide information that will place you in the limelight. I can't believe you had the arrogance to stand in your glass house and throw rocks, and thought you were going to keep this hidden when there are the police reports -- and all on AT as well as yourself want to make all into a media circus.

What am I talking about?

One of your family members reported, that when you were a teenager you were caught by an Adult Family member being VERY inappropriate with an 8-year-old foster child (Boy). Legal action had to be taken and although you weren't charged, it doesn’t change the fact that you, Alex were caught with the child.

I am quite sure that will cause a frenzy on Adventtalk. I personally could care less. You can pass out the lies and do alot of talking but can you really handle the truth in rebuttal? I don't think so. You need to stop making claims about yourself and others which are false, and I will not feel it necessary to bring things up to correct you... Sue your family, or me, if you don't like it, but be aware that in the case of defamation, the documented and truth established is the best defense and they of course can prove it, as can I. Ask your lawyer if you don't believe me...

And start engaging your brain before engaging your mouth from now on and you won't get these kinds of replies, capiche?

Toodles...

You claim there is police reports, so prove it! Let's see them.

You know there are reports. Anytime legal action is taken there are reports, but it doesn't follow I have copies of them to post according to your demands. I don't.

[Cynthia]

I am not posting anything demanded by a spinless coward, who can't use his/her real name. Identify yourself then we will talk.

That is merely a cop out to avoid providing the information. If you really had the information and you really could refute the claims, you would post it. It is immaterial if you know my name, it's immaterial if I know your name. You are making claims that are unfounded. You have the chance to clear them up so that all the readers who meet your arbitrary "real name" requirement can see if you are lying or telling the truth. If you really care about truth being presented post the settlement papers. I think it safe to say that, even if I did post under a "real name" you would find some other excuse to avoid posting what you don't have.

wow, uncovering truth, he called you spinless.. unlike himself and Spinmaster Pickle, sorry, but lol..

You are correct it was a cop out. Alex can't provide support for a lie, as there is none, so all he is left with is posting insults to you and more lies and accusing me of what he himslf does, after first spinning what I said. This is the only thing I ever posted about police reports:


" I can't believe you had the arrogance to stand in your glass house and throw rocks, and thought you were going to keep this hidden when there are the police reports -- and all on AT as well as yourself want to make all into a media circus."

So he claims I said this instead: "Cindy posted that she had police reports to back up a claim against me" when I posted no such thing, and begins demanding I post evidence to prove something I never even said, and finding fault with me for not doing so... and even created a whole new thread on AT to criticize and find fault with me and insult me, all based on him jumping to unwarranted and false conclusions. He's over there posting this:"So Cindy are you willing to withdraw your claims or are you going to apologize? This is your chance to show all that you aren't a hypocrite and two faced. I'll be waiting....." I guess he'll be waiting for a long time as I am most certainly not going to withdraw a claim I never even made...


This to me just proves that he and others don't bother to even read before they begin reacting and attacking and making false accusations. Further evidence of this is Duane Clem's reply to my attempt to clarify things to Alex and correct his false take. Alex posted : "You claim there is police reports, so prove it! Let's see them."and I answered: "You know there are reports. Anytime legal action is taken there are reports, but it doesn't follow I have copies of them to post according to your demands. I don't." and Duane posts this in reply:"Well, I never thought I would see it, but Cindy admitted she lied. She says she DOESN'T have any police reports after all. Imagine that! " Yes, he did imagine that, asI didn't lie, much less admit to lying but once again, we see that they can't let the facts get in the way of a good story...

Meanwhile...Alex did claim he received a settlement but ignored the request for evidence or proof with all the diversionary attacks and faultfinding of me and is only accusing me of what he himself is guilt of, AND-- he and every one else on AT are also apparently focussing on me so they can pretend that Alex's escapade with an 8 year old boy was never brought up, either that or they simply don't care what those who join them in attacking and trying to bring down 3ABN do or say or are guilty of as long as they help them with their agenda...

It's pitiful...

[Pat Williams]

Thanks Lilly.

Look what Adam, admitted b4, and what he is claiming and making accusations about now.Obviously he got it from Alex and is attacking Alex's brother on Alex's behalf without any first hand knowledge or proof,, and Alex has no problem or argument or disagreement with it as he has fed that information to his "friend and roommate" Adam and is allowing him to regurgitate it to all to further his ends without any rebuttlal. I think it ugly and unwarranted and despicable, but sadly, so typical...

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Re: BREAKING NEWS - Tommy Shelton pleads guilty, faces possible prison time
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2010, 01:07:27 PM »

Jamie.Smith you have some NERVE to post what you did over at Cindy's site. You are a nasty distasteful gossiper.

Even if your allegation was true who cares?

I am shocked that you would even post such a thing as you have proven that you stand firmly in defense of not only a homosexual but an admitted sex pervert... by his own admission. Don't you think that is calling the kettle black?

Again, even if your allegation was true... We aren't the ones with felonies over our heads for child molestation.

And Cindy Conard, not suprising you would allow that to take place either. I am fully convinced you need Christ.

I find it even less suprising that Brad would allow that. As it seems he's your "contact man."

I will not even go over what has been previously addressed in previous post about Brad.

Also, I have never met Brad and Brad has never met me. Nor do I care to meet him after he's showed he's two faced.

I am going to use the common Shelton line...One that Trent Chance used when he made contact with Alex. "Those without sin cast the first stone."

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and yet today, Alex's "roommate" and stooge who admits he has " never met Brad and Brad has never met...Nor do I care to meet him" posts:

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Questions for Brad Walker
« on: Today at 09:19:59 AM »
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I think it's only fair that Brad Walker be given the opportunity to answer a few questions.

1. Do you admit that you are an adulterer?
2. Do you admit to having an affair with Tammy Larson?
3. Do you admit that when your own older brother was accused of having an in-appropriate relationship with another sibling that you flew out to Illinois from Virginia to have him admitted? You turned your back on him, but are not willing to do so when the evidence has proven, along with an admission of guilt that your father in law Pastor Tommy R. Shelton is a sexual predator?
4. Did you not call Alex Walker and apologize for the actions that your father in law perpetrated upon him?
5. Did you not say "I feel guilty about this, because you was left under my care"?
6. Did you not repeatedly say that you "have never left "----" (your son) alone with Tommy, nor would you ever?
7. Was you not the one who wanted Alex to come to Virginia to stay with you, and left him alone with Tommy knowing his history of assault?
8. Are you willing to admit that you are not only an adulterer but also a liar?

I believe that you are as guilty as anyone involved in this case, so prove me wrong!

Of course this is all lies and false accusations, Brad is not my contact man, as he has never spoke to me, but even if so, one can't prove a negative, without a piece of evidence to rebut, and NONE is provided as usual... How clueless can Adam be? he says :"I think it's only fair that Brad Walker be given the opportunity to answer a few questions" and yet Brad is not on the forums and Adam apparently doesn't have the decency or courtesy to even approach him off the internet or meet him one on one first and and ask him about such,.and claims e doesn't want to...that isn't right. But, regardless of what Adam believes he is basing his opinions and accusations on hearsay from his lover, Alex, , and it will not stand in a civil court nor in God's... Truth is, hearsay is not proof. it is not up to another to prove his accusations wrong as he challenges. It is up to he and his source, Alex, to prove their accusations correct by providing evidence....
Of course they will not, for there is none... and so, the beat goes on and the merry go round and ferris wheel just spin, going nowhere and revealing nothing new, but just looking dingy, and decrepit, and lacking and pathetic...and as far as I am concerned: desperate and far from Christlike...

I am constantly amazed at how the group attacking 3ABN manage to attract such unsavory and vengeance driven ugly characters. There is no doubt Alex is behind all the attacks being posted by Adam against both 3ABN and those employed there. The attacks and lies against his brother are particulary heinous in that it appears they are being orchestrated by Alex for things he has falsely attributed to his brother and is seeking revenge for. As of yesterday Alex stopped playing good cop to Adam's bad cop routine and admitted to this. See bold large font in Alex's post below in answer to Cindy's. Adam's post above attacking Brad came shortly after it:

Alex,

I am having a hard time understanding a lot of this. 1. I don't understand why your sexual orientation and relationship to your roomate and fellow poster, Adam is being treated as if it is an accusation and attack... The only relevance I see is that it explains your forum posts, actually it explains the bias and perspective and source and point of view of Adam's posts and where he got all the things he has accused your family, esp Brad, and 3ABN of. It explains it as he has never met , nor is he acquainted with any except through you and only knows what you have told him. I think your using him to attack others on your behalf is catty, malicious and underhanded and your claims that he posts for himself are less than honest. True he may post for himself, but he is posting what he got from you

2. I don't understand why you are saying Pat was lying about the country club and your former church,when the things posted came straight from your own family (despite all on AT acting like or claiming that these stories are coming from the Sheltons, when they aren't and no Shelton is even posting here that I know of). You know perfectly well your family knows all of the things being said because it is YOU who said it to them. Why would you claim they are lying, and why would they ALL lie? I am aware that the ATalker/accusers are claiming that we are trying to convince you your family are against you but we are not. The thing is it is quite clear they do not support your claims and don't agree with your statements and claims, but they are not against you because of that. They care about you. However according to them you lie, and you lie a lot, and here you are calling all of them liars... I guess it will be settled in court as you are pursuing your goal of getting a settlement, but I do not think you jumping up on the internet or in court and calling them all liars when they all have one story and you alone have another is going to help your case, or your relationship with them. My 2 cents..

3. You just posted this on the other forum:

I find it funny that they are concentrated on my past life and attacking me. The truth of the matter is yes, I may have had issues, but I have NEVER molested a child like the man that they defend. He is not only a homosexual, but is a child molestor.

YOU NEED TO THINK, and stop opening yourself up for criticism and rebuttals. I never would have mentioned this except for your post above. What is wrong with you? Your parents and family have already evidenced that they will not stand by you in support of your claims - they will in fact refute them and provide information that will place you in the limelight. I can't believe you had the arrogance to stand in your glass house and throw rocks, and thought you were going to keep this hidden when there are the police reports -- and all on AT as well as yourself want to make all into a media circus.

What am I talking about?

One of your family members reported, that when you were a teenager you were caught by an Adult Family member being VERY inappropriate with an 8-year-old foster child (Boy). Legal action had to be taken and although you weren't charged, it doesn’t change the fact that you, Alex were caught with the child.

I am quite sure that will cause a frenzy on Adventtalk. I personally could care less. You can pass out the lies and do alot of talking but can you really handle the truth in rebuttal? I don't think so. You need to stop making claims about yourself and others which are false, and I will not feel it necessary to bring things up to correct you... Sue your family, or me, if you don't like it, but be aware that in the case of defamation, the documented and truth established is the best defense and they of course can prove it, as can I. Ask your lawyer if you don't believe me...

And start engaging your brain before engaging your mouth from now on and you won't get these kinds of replies, capiche?

Toodles...

Alex Posted his reply on AT:

If she thinks her threats and intimidation tactics have an effect on me she is naive. I had the attacks on one of my family members halted, but seeing that Cindy is acting as their "spokesperson" then I will allow them to continue; seeing that it is evident where her source of information is coming from and I invite her to continue in her persuit. She may have a nasty taste in her mouth when it's all said and done though.

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 08:01:17 AM by Alex L. Walker »

UGLY.... and hateful... he is

[Cynthia]

I would just like to clarify this and state for the record. I am not now a spokesperson for Alex's family and I never have been.

Alex has been and stll is assuming things and jumping to conclusions which aren't true. If he has a problem, then I think he should talk to Brad, and other family members privately and attempt to clear things up and mend things between themselves rather than having others publicly and unfairly attack and lie about them. What he is doing is not right, nor is it justified. yeah, my unasked for 2 cents again.