Gailon Joy's riddle and Pickle's new "Save-3abn exclusive"

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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 08:19:11 AM »

As that also says, he is no longer President and is at present a trustee and consultant. As such his salary has dropped to about 1/2 of what it was before he stepped down as President and signed the non-compete agreement. That is revealed in the financial part of the dissolution of marriage Papers Bob published if you want to look that up too.

False. There is nothing that says that Danny's salary from 3ABN dropped 50% when he allegedly stopped down from being president.

The main point here is that it was all reported by 3abn as "other reportable compensation" to DS given to him in addition to his salary that year as part of the non compete agreement they signed, so it is above board and legal and there are no IRS problems and there is no funny business going on here.

Stop the spin and distortion. The point is that there are at least three different versions of 3ABN's 2008 Form 990 floating around out there, and the one filed with the IRS omits the fact admitted on the other versions, that 3ABN gave $96,000 to Danny Shelton.

It is funny business for the 3ABN Board to continue facilitating Danny Shelton's looting of 3ABN through alleged non-compete agreements. Why would they need to do any such agreement with him? They didn't do one with Linda, did they?

Did 3ABN enter into any such agreements with Derrell Mundall, Ervin Thomsen, Kathy Bottomley, Trenton Frost, Oriana Frost, Tommy Shelton, Joan Russell, Pete Crotser (sp?), the Greers, or any other former employee/founder?

Danny and Walt Thompson should have been booted out the door, clear and simple, when it was discovered that they covered up the child molestation allegations against Tommy Shelton. But the board chose to sue us instead, and thus at that point it became clear that the board needed to be booted out the door with Danny and Walt. But since 3ABN's board is self-perpetuating and answers to no one, including to its donors, there was no one to hold the board accountable.

And that is wrong.


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« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 08:29:12 AM »

I dare to say most are only looking at what he was compensated which is the 96,000 and could care less how he was compensated, ie was the 96,000 paid in cash, by check, in land, or with a hill of beans..

That specific transaction was one that we were looking for in discovery, and the fact that the 990 filed with the IRS omits those words suggests to me that 3ABN/Danny may have been trying to hide the evidence.

I shouldn't have to point out the obvious to you, Bob.

A non compete employment agreement is NOT housing or retirement benefits.

That line of questioning by Nick Miller was trying to show that Danny and Linda weren't profiting from their 3ABN activities. When Danny answered those questions he lied, since Walt Thompson said that Danny had asked to be almost given a house in 1998 so that he could build up equity for retirement.

They can call the gift of land anything they want: The onlooker is still going to think that that gift is akin to a housing benefit.

The parties acknowledge that the Husband had a home which he was awarded pursuant to his agreement with his former wife, Linda Sue Shelton. That home has been sold and the proceeds from that sale have been used to purchase new real estate in West Frankfort, Illinois, on which he is currently building a home which will be subject to a mortgage.

Real estate is not just land, Bob Nor does that agreement say Danny paid 96,000 for the land.

Yes it does. The agreement says that Danny was building a home on real estate he bought. Danny wasn't building a home on top of a shopping mall, or on top of a house. He was building a home on top of land. Thus the agreement is very clearly saying that Danny bought land when he didn't buy it at all.

But-- being that you are both dedicated to truth, justice and the american way, and are trying to serve God in all this, I am sure you will do the right thing here and correct your false claims here, and edit your "save-3abn exclusive" report on your web page.

What false claims have I made that I need to correct? Be specific.

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« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 09:42:27 AM »

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"Not so fast here as still questions remain." " What right did the board have to give away $96,000 of donors money to individual assets?
"It sure does make a difference what the donor intended!" "But He received donor assets voted by the board and there is nothing right about this." "Board uses same tactics with funds and votes on things that should not have been done."

3ABN is a Non profit organization. That means it is owned by none, and ran by a board of directors/trustees, ( who are elected) but they have to abide to the organizations by laws. They receive money from donors, yes, but the 3ABN organization also receive money from a variety of other sources such as sales of airtime, sales of books, DVDs, CDs , equipment, investments ect... . No one but the board of directors/trustees has any right to say where the money from the 3ABN organization goes, EXCEPT when it comes to the donors. Donors have the right to earmark, and say where their donated money goes according to law, or to stop donating and even file a complaint if they believe their wishes are not being followed. Donors can express their views but do not have the right to file a complaint about where other money is spent, or used, ( unless it is used illegally) but they do retain their right to no longer donate money if they disagree with the actions of the organizations board of Directors.

Now we have a Post Nuptial Agreement done by Danny Lee Shelton with Brandy in 2008 that declares that Danny Lee Shelton took the proceeds of the sale of the old homestead to James Gilley and purchased the land for $96,000.

Now is that the actual truth and where is money transaction available?

GOOD QUESTION, Tinka! But, is that really the truth???Ask Gailon Joy, for he it is he who said that and falsely claimed that without any proof. Follow through on these kind of questions as they always lead to the truth of a situation and help us learn.

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« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:36:32 AM »

You are standing here looking naked and without excuse, Robert Pickle. You should be ashamed as even I, after reading all, am embarrassed for you. You appear to me to be seared to the core. A man who can not choose to do the right thing is no man as far as I am concerned.

Talk to Danny about it. He's the one who 3ABN gave the land to, not me.

No one but the board of directors/trustees has any right to say where the money from the 3ABN organization goes, EXCEPT when it comes to the donors.

False. The U.S. Government has such a right because 3ABN is a non-profit organization. Further, 3ABN's corporate documents forbid 3ABN from facilitating Danny in engaging in private inurement.

And God has such a right as well. It is simply wrong for 3ABN to solicit money from the public, and then turn around and pour it into Danny's pockets.

Remember why that 1998 house deal occurred instead of simply paying Danny housing and retirement benefits? Because they didn't want to make it look like Danny and Linda were making a lot of money, because that wouldn't sit well with donors.

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Thank you Synthian for posting this. Johann really did a number over on the other forum, but to admit he didn't do the job right because he is lazy certainly gave room for pause....