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How true this is:

Luke 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, "Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? "

The following is exactly how Pickle and Joy started and look at the mess they have caused and gotten themselves into. It is unbelievable to see others who have not learned from it but instead following in their very footsteps. Truly the blind who have been led by the blind all the way from its beginnings in the enemy of God and mankind.

Quote from: GRAT on Today at 10:26:17 PM

I'm not so sure it is that they didn't have that much support as it is that a whole lot of the church doesn't know what is happening or has not taken the time to know. My mom had a problem with her 3abn receiver. A man from her church came over last week to see what the problem was. She needed a new one and I was telling him that I didn't want any support to go to 3abn. He sells their receivers and helps people install. He asked why and I gave him a short version. He did not know about the lawsuit or that TS was not a SDA. Does now. The Review won't take on the issues and if the church paper won't report on it how do people get to know.

Quote from: Snoopy on today at 10:44:20 PM »

I think you have hit on a key point, GRAT. Maybe we should organize an effort to get the word out.

Not far behind we have Sister:

You are right, Grandma Nettie, the end does not justify the means, if the means run contrary to the Word of God. If key members of the management of a Christian ministry are consistently, privately breaking the commandments they are publicly advocating, remove the cancerous growth from within and give the ministry an opportunity to recover and reach it's full potential. Remove Danny Shelton, remove Walt Thompson, remove Hal and Mollie Steenson, that would be a good start for a new beginning for 3ABN.

And now PickledJoy has truly been called what I've been saying all along....

Blacksda admin Clay, certainly no supporter of 3ABN, had this to say about the twisted pair. And so did many who are in no way supporters of 3ABN.

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.ph ... ode=linear

Posted Aug 27, 2008.

Just a mini-rant.... I was informed today that Pickle and company (i.e. Daryl) have sunk to a new low..... it seems Pickle decided to out a member (posting full name and locale) for reasons known only to him.... one word for such behavior.... sleaze.... ironic that Pickle felt Mr. Shelton was unscrupulous, it seems that they share that trait.... Since its Daryl's place, he is in the same boat.... sleaze.... I hope someone sees this thread and reports it to them, I don't mind telling them to their cyber faces that they are sleaze.....

I am glad that the 3abn discussion has gone elsewhere, but I had to share how low they have gone.....

done......

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Blacksda admin Clay, certainly no supporter of 3ABN, had this to say about the twisted pair. And so did many who are in no way supporters of 3ABN.

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.ph ... ode=linear

Posted Aug 27, 2008.

Just a mini-rant.... I was informed today that Pickle and company (i.e. Daryl) have sunk to a new low..... it seems Pickle decided to out a member (posting full name and locale) for reasons known only to him.... one word for such behavior.... sleaze.... ironic that Pickle felt Mr. Shelton was unscrupulous, it seems that they share that trait.... Since its Daryl's place, he is in the same boat.... sleaze.... I hope someone sees this thread and reports it to them, I don't mind telling them to their cyber faces that they are sleaze.....

I am glad that the 3abn discussion has gone elsewhere, but I had to share how low they have gone

It has gone to far. I have never heard of Whitney Phipps till Bob as SDAminister?? had the sad task of informing all what a terrible act had been committed.
It was so terrible in fact he kept at it with his leader helping him along the way.
When you deliberately set out to try to ruin a man's reputation because of a connection to 3ABN, it is beyond low. It is little different than the trashing of LS reputation ,the doing all couched in carefully worded "concerned " phrases.

Gailon and Bob should be stopped. It has gone far beyond what they claimed their original concern was, and now it is to mow down everyone that does not look in awe at the daring courageous duo.

Seems to me no matter what side people take in these issues, or what opinions they (we) may have formed, there are certain issues and standards we as Christians should be able to agree with and be in consensus on, as they are so very basic....

I have to admit, I am very interested in where this topic is going...

But also have to add, I found myself in agreements with Clay's sentiments on BSDA in this case.

Please make yourself at home here in this forum Odie, we may not always agree but I promise to not bite and don't think others here will either.

(BTW, I don't know if there is any relation as far as your login name goes but I am big fan of Garfield and Odie, as is my youngest son, had to buy and read compilations to him as he grew up, along with "Calvin and Hobbes" which I enjoyed just as much as he did. smile)

Sabbath blessings to you and yours,
...ian

PickledJoy, your mind is so warped that in your world, light is dark and day is night. Maybe you should report your own corruption and hypocrisy.

And excuse me, ... weren't you the ones bleating about how the lawsuit was unChristian? At first, it was, let them sue us!!! They you were sued. Now you bleat.

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Gailon Arthur Joy wrote: As long as I find corruption and hypocrisy I will never stop reporting the same until I draw my last breathe.

No-one has to listen, but the reports will continue, but I suspect many will listen...particularly when we expose the entire truth regarding 3ABN to a jury of our peers, at which point, it looses confidentiality and privilege and will be reported in its entirety to those who should know. Too bad the directors didn't listen two years ago, could have saved a fortune in legal fees and 3ABN would well on its way to acheiving it's real purpose uninhibited by the factually challenged Danny Lee Shelton.

In the interim, the war goes on!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

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This is the problem Mr. Joy. You are so busy trying to find "corruption and hypocrisy" in others that you have forgotten to look at yourself. We are living in the antypical day of atonement--at a time when we are to examine our own hearts and see how things really are inside. The devil will do anything to distract us from doing that inward work of heart-searching until probation has closed for us. You say you will not stop reporting "others" corruption and hypocrisy until you draw your last breath. That is a very serious thing to say because our lives are in the hand of God.

Gailon Arthur Joy wrote:
Go, do your duty and my purpose will be done!!!

Your purpose has become very clear. Use any means necessary to bring down a ministry. You have tried it and, thank God, you have failed. More than once.