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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:25 am America/Denver
Looking for the FLUSH lever on AT. Has anyone seen that?
The bowl seems to be overflowing.
The bowl seems to be overflowing.
Yes mostly it is a waste of time. But in all fairness I do have to admit I did post a "laters swiss miss" to Sister/Kris Fiscalini which caused Snoopy to get out her scissors and get Snippy... lol lol.. and top post a little excitedly:Breezy wrote:It looks to me like the floodgates have opened and it is a free-for-all over on Advent Talk forum. With Daryl Fawcett leaving, now anything goes! Interesting how the discussion can get so slimy but when Ian posts there saying nothing that breaks the rules, Snoopy loves to write in red against her. That is why we have this forum here. Forget it over there--it is a slime-pit anyway.
Ian Reply #211 on: Today at 08:06:22 AM wrote:
... [Bob's Post] ...
Cherry picking again.. to present a warped view. To read the
entire thing in context go to 3atalk
http://www.3atalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=170
Ian Reply #215 on: Today at 09:24:43 AM wrote:(Huh? smiley) (Scratch head smiley)Ian Reply #211 on: Today at 08:06:22 AM wrote: Cherry picking again.. to present a warped view.To read the
entire thing in context go to 3atalk
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so sillyIan Reply #215 on: Today at 09:24:43 AM wrote:(Huh? smiley) (Scratch head smiley)Ian Reply #211 on: Today at 08:06:22 AM wrote: Cherry picking again.. to present a warped view.
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I read where Pickle said "where have I said anything that wasn't 100% true"? I about fell over laughing. The question would be more like where has he written anything true.Breezy wrote:censorship--what a novel idea--if anyone should disagree with you, you just censor them! Like I said, REAL TRUTH has nothing to hide--but it seems AT has a LOT to hide. So if you dare say anything they don't like, the sissors will go "snip snip snip" by Snippy-Snoopy. How about that for one-sidedness?
Their problem is they DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!! They only want the juiciest of gossip and if they can't find it, they will make it up.
And Pickle whines that he cannot go before the 3ABN board to tell of all his little discoveries....um, Pickle, the Board members are not living at 3ABN and they SUED you, remember? The "stupid lawsuit" as you referred to it (remember you started all this in the first place). This board is made up of successful businessmen who are busy. They are too busy working as a Board furthering the work of the Lord--to come down "off the wall" to mess with whiners of inconsequential fallacies.
No matter where one goes to interview for a job, does the would be employer investigate the last 30 years of their life to see if they sinned or made mistakes in that time frame? Ridiculous. Of course not.
This is more damning than encouraging. The fact that our denomination has done this should be a matter of shame rather than pride.. Yes the individual conferences and the GC do turn a blind eye to many sins of sexual misconduct.A few years ago a ministry had an employee who was named by a number of female co workers of sexual harassment. Each one was willing to testify that he was guilty of sexual harassment. He left almost immediately and was soon hired by the GC. When he left that ministry, those involved prayed with him and encouraged him to tell the truth but when he didn't they realized that this man's salvation is between him and God alone. They did not go public with this man's sins. I believe some at the GC knew about his past but they allowed him to work there anyway. Mr. Pickle would do well to realize that it wasn't that ministries job to continue to accuse and antagonize that man. It was not the ministries responsibility to judge the GC for hiring him even though they may have known of his "problem".
Helping to mend and restore should be part of a christian's approach. Mending and restoring and the expense of others is about as evil as it gets.Even when people make mistakes we as individual Christians and 3ABN as a Christian organization needs to help mend and restore those that are willing to admit their wrongs, and ask forgiveness. Derrell M, beartrap/habanero, is one such case. Derrell's divorce papers proclaim that he can never have his children overnight. The reason for that proclamation is that Derrell agreed to it because he knew he did wrong and didn't want this matter to end up in court.
This is not an expose' of Derrell, but rather an illustration. If it were I would be more specific. Hope Channel knew of Derrell's problem but didn't choose to let him go because he told Brad Thorpe and Gary Gibbs that it was a PAST problem. 3ABN leaders also knew of Derrell's problem but decided to let him stay on because he likewise told them that his "problem" was in the past. Derrell showed signs of remorse and asked for prayer. Pastor Johny D. also prayed with him over this problem. Pastor Thomas the T'ville pastor knew of this problem and even censored DM for six months. These are facts that can and have been proven. Yet everyone was willing to try and give him help and support. Danny was willing to allow him to continue to work at 3abn regardless that Darrell and Melody were divorced, regardless of Derrell's self confessed problem and regardless of Danny's personal feelings over the situation.
What Derrells problem was or is ,it only needs to be made public if others have to be protected from these little mistakes.3ABN would be under no obligation to go public unless they placed him in a postion where he could re-offend,harm others.Even after being told that Derrell was on the internet telling lies about Danny and 3abn, painting everything in the worst light possible, Danny, Melody and 3abn chose not to go public with proof of Derrell's problems. In my mind there is no excuse or justification for Derrell's actions against 3abn. He has repaid their kindness and christian actions with lies.
Again,if DS placed individuals in postions of power/authority/trust this is nothing to brag about. But OTOH,I believe it was to take a shot at someone with a little titilation and tease as to what "the problem" was.Even when people make mistakes we as individual Christians and 3ABN as a Christian organization needs to help mend and restore those that are willing to admit their wrongs, and ask forgiveness. Derrell M, beartrap/habanero, is one such case. Derrell's divorce papers proclaim that he can never have his children overnight. The reason for that proclamation is that Derrell agreed to it because he knew he did wrong and didn't want this matter to end up in court.
This is not an expose' of Derrell, but rather an illustration. If it were I would be more specific. Hope Channel knew of Derrell's problem but didn't choose to let him go because he told Brad Thorpe and Gary Gibbs that it was a PAST problem. 3ABN leaders also knew of Derrell's problem but decided to let him stay on because he likewise told them that his "problem" was in the past. Derrell showed signs of remorse and asked for prayer. Pastor Johny D. also prayed with him over this problem. Pastor Thomas the T'ville pastor knew of this problem and even censored DM for six months. These are facts that can and have been proven. Yet everyone was willing to try and give him help and support. Danny was willing to allow him to continue to work at 3abn regardless that Darrell and Melody were divorced, regardless of Derrell's self confessed problem and regardless of Danny's personal feelings over the situation.