Tommy Shelton

[Pat Williams]

You said:

You also never announced or made known any repentance for any sin, to those you made them known to.

Again, that is another lie.

Is it? I am sorry but no one close to you seems to be aware of that, and nor am I. You came on here claiming you were correcting lies and not admitting to anything but confusion... In a few words, "no evidence exists" and "you never said this, online or to anyone publicly", although saying much ever since you arrived...

You said:

I do feel bad for you as you have painted yourself in a corner, and will be judged by your own words and actions, but you made those choices, and still are, and will just have to deal with it...

Your right, I will be judged, but not by you but a God who has forgiven me and restored me.

I hope so. I am not judging you, at least not salvation wise. I do admit I think you are wrong in your decisions, and I am saying I have no opinion but distrust and so am reserving judgment and hoping and praying for the best. God is truth and never lies and He alone can be trusted to decide and do what is right.

I did ask after bringing up what is known in rebuttal to your claims, and knowing it isn't going to be resolved between you and I, if we could move on, as I do trust God to resolve all and know He will. I note you did not answer , maybe you aren't able to allow Him do so, but I am. ok? It's always much easier that way..

Blessings...

[Cynthia]

First as an Admin note due to my late arrival, and the posts and even complaint filed, let me answer those. We do not want rumors posted here, and it does not add to the discussion, I agree. But, IMO, "rumored" was a bad choice of words, and I hope the issue has been adequately explained in the posts which followed, as it is a bit late to go back and edit the post which generated that. So, let's just try and avoid such in the future.

Moving on...


Alex,

I am having a hard time understanding a lot of this. 1. I don't understand why your sexual orientation and relationship to your roomate and fellow poster, Adam is being treated as if it is an accusation and attack. You were the one who announced that you were gay to your parents and family and moved in with him openly and saw nothing wrong with that, yet now you act like it is shameful and lie about it. The thing is whether you are gay or not has nothing to do with whether your claims against Tommy are true or false, does it? The other accuser being flaming Gay has nothing to do with it either, and as he is open about that, I am quite sure he would not see that as an attack or insult but rather an acknowledgment of his sexual orientation. The only relevance I see is that it explains your forum posts, actually it explains the bias and perspective and source and point of view of Adam's posts and where he got all the things he has accused your family, esp Brad, and 3ABN of. It explains it as he has never met , nor is he acquainted with any except through you and only knows what you have told him. I think your using him to attack others on your behalf is catty, malicious and underhanded and your claims that he posts for himself are less than honest. True he may post for himself, but he is posting what he got from you.

2. I don't understand why you are saying Pat was lying about the country club and your former church,when the things posted came straight from your own family (despite all on AT acting like or claiming that these stories are coming from the Sheltons, when they aren't and no Shelton is even posting here that I know of). You know perfectly well your family knows all of the things being said because it is YOU who said it to them. Why would you claim they are lying, and why would they ALL lie? I am aware that the ATalker/accusers are claiming that we are trying to convince you your family are against you but we are not. The thing is it is quite clear they do not support your claims and don't agree with your statements and claims, but they are not against you because of that. They care about you. However according to them you lie, and you lie a lot, and here you are calling all of them liars... I guess it will be settled in court as you are pursuing your goal of getting a settlement, but I do not think you jumping up on the internet or in court and calling them all liars when they all have one story and you alone have another is going to help your case, or your relationship with them. My 2 cents..

3. You just posted this on the other forum:

I find it funny that they are concentrated on my past life and attacking me. The truth of the matter is yes, I may have had issues, but I have NEVER molested a child like the man that they defend. He is not only a homosexual, but is a child molestor.

YOU NEED TO THINK, and stop opening yourself up for criticism and rebuttals. I never would have mentioned this except for your post above. What is wrong with you? Your parents and family have already evidenced that they will not stand by you in support of your claims - they will in fact refute them and provide information that will place you in the limelight. I can't believe you had the arrogance to stand in your glass house and throw rocks, and thought you were going to keep this hidden when there are the police reports -- and all on AT as well as yourself want to make all into a media circus.

What am I talking about?

One of your family members reported, that when you were a teenager you were caught by an Adult Family member being VERY inappropriate with an 8-year-old foster child (Boy). Legal action had to be taken and although you weren't charged, it doesn’t change the fact that you, Alex were caught with the child.

I am quite sure that will cause a frenzy on Adventtalk. I personally could care less. You can pass out the lies and do alot of talking but can you really handle the truth in rebuttal? I don't think so. You need to stop making claims about yourself and others which are false, and I will not feel it necessary to bring things up to correct you... Sue your family, or me, if you don't like it, but be aware that in the case of defamation, the documented and truth established is the best defense and they of course can prove it, as can I. Ask your lawyer if you don't believe me...

And start engaging your brain before engaging your mouth from now on and you won't get these kinds of replies, capiche?

Toodles...

[Cynthia]

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Cindy's incoherent ramblings
« on: Today at 06:44:14 AM »

Well, Cindy, since we're being so open and honest, maybe you'd like to tell everyone how you have repeatedly tried to meet privately with me during the 3ABN Campmeeting. I still have your PMs just so you know.

I have to answer you here as I am banned permanently from adventtalk by Snoopy for revealing her harrassing phone calls to my house and to me and my family...

Thanks for at least acknowledging that I am trying to be open and honest, but I don't understand the problem here. I still have the pms too. Who cares? Yes, I did try to meet with you privately. I tried twice as you said you were on the road and couldn't the first time. I did so, because believe it or not, I care about you and wanted to hear your perspective and view. You stated repeatedly you would not answer anonymous posters and cowards, but I am not anonymous, and I am not afraid of the truth Duane. I respected your wishes and sentiments and wanted to take you to lunch and meet with you face to face, honestly, and was willing to respect your privacy, wishes and confidence and listen to you in order to try and understand. I really wanted to try and help you and others. You declined. So I accepted it and moved on. Now you bring it up to criticize me and act like that's a problem ? Ok.. but as far as I am concerned that's all about you, Duane, not me...

[Cynthia]

Well, Alex didn't deny what I posted as he knows it is documented, but suddenly and of interest imo is that he suddenly seems unable to post a reply here, although he did answer the above post on AT in a hit and run manner, again imo:

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Re: Cindy's incoherent ramblings
« Reply #1 on: Today at 07:57:10 AM »

Cindy said this :

Why would you claim they are lying, and why would they ALL lie?

Cindy, is not talking to the people who I talk to on a regular basis; my mother, father, and grandmother. She fails to admit that. The truth is I have not talked to the other family members in nearly 4 years. So, to say ALL is a complete exaggeration especially when I know of at least 7 who stand admittedly in support.

Then,

I guess it will be settled in court as you are pursuing your goal of getting a settlement, but I do not think you jumping up on the internet or in court and calling them all liars when they all have one story and you alone have another is going to help your case, or your relationship with them. My 2 cents..

Who asked for her two cents anyway? No one cares. I alone have another? I'm glad she thinks that way; she's in for a big suprise.

YOU NEED TO THINK, and stop opening yourself up for criticism and rebuttals. I never would have mentioned this except for your post above. What is wrong with you? Your parents and family have already evidenced that they will not stand by you in support of your claims - they will in fact refute them and provide information that will place you in the limelight.

Again, she's in for a BIG suprise.

If she thinks her threats and intimidation tactics have an effect on me she is naive. I had the attacks on one of my family members halted, but seeing that Cindy is acting as their "spokesperson" then I will allow them to continue; seeing that it is evident where her source of information is coming from and I invite her to continue in her persuit. She may have a nasty taste in her mouth when it's all said and done though.
« Last Edit: Today at 08:01:17 AM by Alex L. Walker »

All I have to say is that he claims he says he only talks to 3 family members and yet also claims "I know of at least 7 who stand admittedly in support" and that's weird to me as he appears to be estranged from all but 3 according to what he himself says about not talking to them in 4 yrs. I don't get that as I talk to all my family, and can't imagine why he wouldn't unless there are unrevealed problems... I would also like to clarify that even though I am aware of what his family members have said about him and his claims, and so I disagree with him, I am not their spokes person and have never been asked to be, and wouldn't be even if they did ask me to do that, so his claims about that are false and out of line. Nor do I want to intimidate or threaten him although he obviously chooses to take it that way. Whatever...

But as far as his post and his claims of nasty tastes and big surprises go... as I said previously:

"I am aware that the ATalker/accusers are claiming that we are trying to convince you your family are against you but we are not. The thing is it is quite clear they do not support your claims and don't agree with your statements and claims, but they are not against you because of that. They care about you. However according to them you lie, and you lie a lot, and here you are calling all of them liars... I guess it will be settled in court as you are pursuing your goal of getting a settlement.."

That remains true, so I think the best thing to do is to sit back and be patient and allow that to happen, and I am going to do that, and would advise others to do the same and allow the evidence, the facts and the truth to be established here and made known. Each side has already been stated and further arguments at this time will not help or be fruitful imo.

That, of course, is again my unasked for 2 cents

[Jamie]

Cindy is a few fries short of a happy meal. You can't explain anything to her.

Then again, how would he know that? Since it's been years now and he has been so busy belittling and discounting her and posting insults like the above about her ---and about all of us--- that he has never even made one attempt to explain anything and only posts excuses for why he never explains or answers questions, and every one is another insult or accusation.

[Lilly]

Jamie, that is how a losing side talks and acts. They cannot refute the information brought forward, so instead they attack the person bringing it. So they attack Cynthia and Pat and no doubt will attack you and me too.

Their works do follow them--people are seeing their real characters shine forth.

In that light, they have lost the war.

[Jamie]

Thanks Lilly.

Look what Adam, admitted b4, and what he is claiming and making accusations about now.Obviously he got it from Alex and is attacking Alex's brother on Alex's behalf without any first hand knowledge or proof,, and Alex has no problem or argument or disagreement with it as he has fed that information to his "friend and roommate" Adam and is allowing him to regurgitate it to all to further his ends without any rebuttlal. I think it ugly and unwarranted and despicable, but sadly, so typical...

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Re: BREAKING NEWS - Tommy Shelton pleads guilty, faces possible prison time
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2010, 01:07:27 PM »

Jamie.Smith you have some NERVE to post what you did over at Cindy's site. You are a nasty distasteful gossiper.

Even if your allegation was true who cares?

I am shocked that you would even post such a thing as you have proven that you stand firmly in defense of not only a homosexual but an admitted sex pervert... by his own admission. Don't you think that is calling the kettle black?

Again, even if your allegation was true... We aren't the ones with felonies over our heads for child molestation.

And Cindy Conard, not suprising you would allow that to take place either. I am fully convinced you need Christ.

I find it even less suprising that Brad would allow that. As it seems he's your "contact man."

I will not even go over what has been previously addressed in previous post about Brad.

Also, I have never met Brad and Brad has never met me. Nor do I care to meet him after he's showed he's two faced.

I am going to use the common Shelton line...One that Trent Chance used when he made contact with Alex. "Those without sin cast the first stone."

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and yet today, Alex's "roommate" and stooge who admits he has " never met Brad and Brad has never met...Nor do I care to meet him" posts:

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Questions for Brad Walker
« on: Today at 09:19:59 AM »
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I think it's only fair that Brad Walker be given the opportunity to answer a few questions.

1. Do you admit that you are an adulterer?
2. Do you admit to having an affair with Tammy Larson?
3. Do you admit that when your own older brother was accused of having an in-appropriate relationship with another sibling that you flew out to Illinois from Virginia to have him admitted? You turned your back on him, but are not willing to do so when the evidence has proven, along with an admission of guilt that your father in law Pastor Tommy R. Shelton is a sexual predator?
4. Did you not call Alex Walker and apologize for the actions that your father in law perpetrated upon him?
5. Did you not say "I feel guilty about this, because you was left under my care"?
6. Did you not repeatedly say that you "have never left "----" (your son) alone with Tommy, nor would you ever?
7. Was you not the one who wanted Alex to come to Virginia to stay with you, and left him alone with Tommy knowing his history of assault?
8. Are you willing to admit that you are not only an adulterer but also a liar?

I believe that you are as guilty as anyone involved in this case, so prove me wrong!

Of course this is all lies and false accusations, Brad is not my contact man, as he has never spoke to me, but even if so, one can't prove a negative, without a piece of evidence to rebut, and NONE is provided as usual... How clueless can Adam be? he says :"I think it's only fair that Brad Walker be given the opportunity to answer a few questions" and yet Brad is not on the forums and Adam apparently doesn't have the decency or courtesy to even approach him off the internet or meet him one on one first and and ask him about such,.and claims e doesn't want to...that isn't right. But, regardless of what Adam believes he is basing his opinions and accusations on hearsay from his lover, Alex, , and it will not stand in a civil court nor in God's... Truth is, hearsay is not proof. it is not up to another to prove his accusations wrong as he challenges. It is up to he and his source, Alex, to prove their accusations correct by providing evidence....

Of course they will not, for there is none... and so, the beat goes on and the merry go round and ferris wheel just spin, going nowhere and revealing nothing new, but just looking dingy, and decrepit, and lacking and pathetic...and as far as I am concerned: desperate and far from Christlike...