Gailon Joy - perjures himself?

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Re: Gailon Joy - perjures himself?

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Your response proves it isn't one-sided. But who are you trying to convince here? The Vermont court already decided that issue. All it proves is that you consider yourself not "guilty" while the court considers you guilty. Not allegations, PickledJoy, but facts backed up by court documents.

You definitely landed in a pickle while handling your finances in Vermont. So picklish that you had to start using money that wasn't yours. Nothing prevented you from sending the required percentage to Stacey Fuel and keeping your percentage. But you kept all of it

You see, PickledJoy, unlike your slander site(s), we don't slander 3ABN. You have set out to destroy a ministry and have revealed the evil in your soul.

-edited to correct spelling
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Re: Gailon Joy - perjures himself?

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Gailon Arthur Joy wrote: The subject is perjury. There was no perjury in the Vermont case. The Vt Supreme Court upheld the embezzlement decision and that cannot be denied. But, embezzlement, particularly under the Vt Statute, does not require or come close to establishing perjury.
Ok, pickledjoy. The subject of the topic is perjury. How did we land at embezzlement? I must have picked up on your statement "was there malicious attempt to defraud?" Mention the word defraud and I get reminded of embezzlement. Ok, that's clear. Onward now.
Your thread alleges "Gailon Joy - Perjures himself?" and that is perjurious. It is also defamatory and libelous. And since it alleges perjury as a violation of criminal law. it is also defamation per se!!!
pickledjoy, pickledjoy - you see the question mark? Do you also see the proof published - all your bleatings to the contrary - proof that somehow you just can't muster in your own defence? By the way, am I dreaming? Isn't perjury punishable by law? Do you mean to tell me that I can lie to a court and expect no punishment? I really hope that's not what you are doing right now in any court, pickledjoy!
If you would come out from behind your pseudonym, I would be happy to help you hone your legal skills a bit. Let's see if you have anything of the legal writing skills and qualifications Bob Pickle has established.
Same old pickledjoy. Trying so hard to find who I am when I keep on telling you the same thing - my name is not any kind of pseudonym. I was named so, will remain so, and it won't matter what you say. And Bob Pickle's legal writing skills seem to have suffered dramatically. Witness the exchange on your slime site.
GrandmaNettie - "Pickle tried to enter a woman's house in WI, trying to talk to her, terrifying her child in the process!"
pickledjoy - "That is a false tale!"
GrandmaNettie - "Not so."
pickledjoy - "Well actually I did stop by the woman's house. But who gave me her phone number so I could then call her?"
steffan - "pickledjoy, you liar. I have been told that the poor woman gave you the number because she was so terrified of your presence and wanted you gone at any cost."

So you see, pickledjoy? From your own mouth, in the space of less than 2 pages, you call a tale a lie, then admit it's the truth and then try to twist things by asking how Bob got the number. Liars and goons - that's what the 2 of you are.
By the way, next time you are by the house, come on in for some lemonade. Might go far toward keeping you off the "kool aid" kick. Why I could show you some evidence that requires you either scratch your head and convert or run for the "kool aid" bucket!!
At no time would I bother to come by your house. I did visit your neck of the woods. I did enjoy seeing the furor it caused when I asked whether you saw a car with NY plates in your parking lot! So, called the police yet? Or are you going to investigate for yourself and then give them a license plate number so that they can come make the arrest? Just like you so inflated your role in "helping" the police by investigating IP addresses and then handing them over to the police? By the way, any claim you make to help? Proof is needed since otherwise the claims are very possibly the result of an over-ripe imagination.

And evidence? Post it. Nobody has stopped you from doing that yet. I don't why I need to visit you to see the evidence.
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Re: Gailon Joy - perjures himself?

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Gailon Arthur Joy wrote:
Synthian,

Forgot to post my replies to PBJelly!!! What a one sided conversation you have having....Why don't you post the responses to PBJELLY...it will be cathartic for your souls!!!

You might want to remember I am not one of your shills nor is it my job to represent you.
If you want to include your arguments and excuses? Do so.

Gailon Arthur Joy wrote: DO you even know the elements of perjury?
yep.
Perjury Law & Legal Definition
Perjury is the crime of making a knowingly false statement which bears on the outcome of an official proceeding that is required to be testified to under oath. A statement is made under oath when 1) the statement was made on or pursuant to form bearing notice, authorized by law, to the effect that false statements made therein are punishable, or 2) the statement recites that it was made under oath, the declarant was aware of such recitation at the time he made the statement and intended that the statement should be represented as a sworn statement, and the statement was signed by an officer authorized to administer oaths...
What you filed and signed:
Part II. CALCULATION OF MONTHLY INCOME FOR § 707(b)(7) EXCLUSION

Marital/filing status. Check the box that applies and complete the balance of this part of this statement as directed.

a. Unmarried. Complete only Column A ("Debtor's Income") for Lines 3-11.

b. [box checked] Married, not filing jointly, with declaration of separate households. By checking this box, debtor declares under penalty of perjury:
"My spouse and I are legally separated under applicable non-bankruptcy law or my spouse and I are living apart other than for the purpose of evading the requirements of § 707(b)(2)(A) of the Bankruptcy Code." Complete only column A ("Debtor's Income")for Lines 3-11.


c. Married, not filing jointly, without the declaration of separate households set out in Line 2.b above. Complete both Column A ("Debtor's Income") and Column B ("Spouse's Income") for Lines 3-11.

d. Married, filing jointly. Complete both Column A ("Debtor's Income") and Column B ("Spouse's Income") for Lines 3-11.


Part III. APPLICATION OF § 707(b)(7) EXCLUSION
a. Enter debtor's state of residence: MA b. Enter debtor's household size: 1

Gailon Arthur Joy wrote:Was their malicious intent to defraud? Did the clerical error have any material bearing on the filing or the estate?

And read the rest of the sentence where it states it is signed under penalty of perjury...That last sentence is significant and really gives you ZERO TRACTION. But then, who is looking for traction here? You own the road and do so with impunity....
Well maybe that will work for you both in your Bankruptcy court and in a much higher one..

But being that you were already found in contempt of court and had a 1000.00 sanction issued against you once due to your earlier lack of responsiveness and honesty with the court,
Bankruptcy Trustee contempt Motion.pdf
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013108 Judges order for contempt.pdf
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and that also due to your lack of responsiveness to the court ordered 2004 exam in this case 3abn has had to reschedule it, and could easily have earned you another contempt charge and sanctions had 3abn been inclined to ask the court for that,
BanKDoc85 072108.pdf
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I would think you would be more concerned here then you are...

BTW, :?: When is that 2004 examination?

Quoting from the above file:
5. Furthermore, pursuant to an Order of the Court entered
on March 3, 2008, 3ABN issued a Subpoena to the Debtor regarding the production of documents and to conduct a Rule 2004 Examination. That Examination was scheduled for April 15, 2008. Notwithstanding that the Subpoena requested that documents were to be produced several days earlier, the Debtor did not produce any documents until he arrived for the April 15th Examination. Furthermore, 3ABN states that the documents the Debtor did produce were minimal and not responsive to the scope of the request. Accordingly, as 3ABN did not have any substantive documents to review, the Examination did not go forward. 3ABN has been exploring its options with respect to the Debtor’s lack of cooperation, anticipates rescheduling the Rule 2004 Examination for the first week or two of September 2008, giving the Debtor ample time to produce the items and documents he did not produce before. 3ABN would like to accomplish this prior to the preparation of any Complaint objecting to the Debtor’s Discharge or to determine the dischargeability of debt. The current deadline is July 21, 2008, and 3ABN proposes an extension of just over 2 months, to September 26, 2008.


Seems to me if it keeps being extended like this Pickle, who has already filed claims against you for almost 32,000 might just be able to get a third claim for "services rendered" in there...
~ Cindy
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Re: Gailon Joy - perjures himself?

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A couple more things...

Quoting from the documents, attached above:
Janice G. Marsh, the trustee, requests the court to enter an order of contempt against the debtor, Gailon Arthur Joy, and to award her appropriate sanctions.

1. On August 14, 2007, the debtor, Gailon Arthur Joy, commenced this case; immediately thereafter, the trustee was appointed.

2. Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc., and its officers, directors, shareholders and employees, including Danny Shelton (collectively “Buyers”) informed the trustee that the debtor had not listed on his schedules certain property, specifically, domain names and a counterclaim against the Buyers that arose prepetition (“Property”).

3. At the 341 meeting, the debtor failed to testify about the Property.
and:
3. On September 17, 2007, the Debtor’s Section 341 meeting
was held. On October 4, 2007, the Trustee filed the Report of No Distribution.

4. 3ABN says that it was not listed as a creditor on the
Debtor’s Bankruptcy Schedules and that additional time is needed to investigate whether cause exists for the filing of a complaint objecting to the Debtor’s discharge or a complaint to determine the dischargeability of a debt.

Setting aside the issue of ownership of websites and a forum Fawcett claims he doesn't own... Gailon, here is just one of numerous claims you have made, before and since filing for Bankruptcy about getting paid handsomely and collecting awards from 3abn...
1) The Contributions to the Joy Pickle Defense Fund deposit directly into the the IOLTA account of Attorney Laird Heal;

2) The Joy Pickle defense fund does not cover any expenses for Joy;

3) The Mass Board of Bar Overseers review all IOLTA accounts annually, therefore there is accountability to the Mass Board of Bar Overseers, probably more reliable than Danny's obviously deficient auditors;

4) When Danny wants to disclose his Legal Bills for the SIX (6) ATTORNEYS that 3ABN has been paying for and the money paid for the his divorce attorneys during the past two years, we will be happy to arrange a copy of the legal bill for Pickle...maybe 3ABN would like to pay that also, now rather than later, and I will bet it is comparably very affordable;

5) When Danny is prepared to account for every dime of royalties earned but undisclosed on the 990's or to his board of directors, we will be happy to provide Danny with an accounting of every dime in the defense fund, or he can make an early contribution and I will credit it to the award in 2009;

6) Joy is not paid to represent himself, unlike Danny's Royalty problems, but Joy does intend to get paid quite handsomely by 3ABN and Danny Lee Shelton, his board, et al, for the grotesque misuse of process that this action represents... and Joy intends to collect sometime in 2009.

Gailon Arthur Joy
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So how could you then say this to the Trustee?
joy response to trustee request.pdf
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Also, I would like to know if you are still claiming "The Joy Pickle defense fund does not cover any expenses for Joy" and "The Contributions to the Joy Pickle Defense Fund deposit directly into the the IOLTA account of Attorney Laird Heal" as he is only your Atty in the Bankruptcy case? And if not, where does it go? and who keeps track of it?

Thank you.
~ Cindy
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